Skip to main content

tv   [untitled]    November 28, 2012 10:00pm-10:30pm PST

10:00 pm
and so much of this is the responsibilities falls on those adults who actually have a bird's eye ore worm's eye view of what is going on in the schools and the kids' lives and when kids don't show up for school and do more inquiry we find there is an issue around sexual harassment in the school and another form of bullying and girls assaulted or harassed in an aggressive way, or and it just goes higher and higher. our teachers need to be not only recognize what they're seeing but willing to look at what they're seeing and one of the unfortunate things we have seen with some teachers and i am not criticizing the teachers in general because i think this is a learning process for adults also to move from kids will be kids and we had someone who was mean to us in school to actual
10:01 pm
bullying, but we have talked to the school districts around the state and sometimes the teachers have the blind's eye and it's more work to get involved and more work and what do relationships look like, and i agree with tony this is the beginning of relationship building, or it's a relationship going bad that could get worse. and so i think that we have a lot of educating to do. in my office we do a lot of cyber bullying training in our schools and it's amazing how much access some kids have to the internet at a really young age. they have iphones. they're on the internet. they have or smartphones. they have computers in the bedroom and parent it is never over the shoulder to see what is going online. there is a lot of
10:02 pm
unrestricted access to the internet and the internet has put it on another level and one push of a button and everybody in the school will have a picture or hear it and the outcome of that is -- it would be not just reconciling relationships or restorative justice or some other way between two or three or four people but now you have a whole study body that has been tempered or tainted with something that goes against the individual who was a target of that, so the internet working more strongly with the partners and the providers of the internet and there is awareness and education, but back to the student assemblies that we do it is amazing at the end of the assemblies how many kids will step forward quietly or privately "it happened to me. it happened on the internet. this person put something out
10:03 pm
about me" and didn't feel they had a place to go so there could be intervention so i think the partnership between law enforcement and between the schools and the school resource officers is critically important. we have prosecuted parents by the way who have encouraged their children to bully in a dramatic way. we prosecuted a mother who forced the 14 year old daughter to bully a 12 year old and resulted in the 14 year old physically attacking the girl with the mother screaming at her if she didn't continue to beat the kid she was going to get beaten and the kids watching were filming it on their smartphones and that girl -- the daughter was also a victim of bullying by her own mother and i think this is a place where law enforcement can step in and hold parents
10:04 pm
accountable and doing things aggressive or against the law and encourage the kids to do something against the law and getting the parent's intention and bring them in on some level. >> quickly i want to say something about this. i appreciate what you have said about the adults and the adults having responsibility but i'm going to speak practical callity. i have been a teacher and principal in different states. i want you to think about to the time after columbine and think what happened after that incident happened. there was a wave to put metal detectors in schools and all of this security. i will tell you folks in two different schools and having confiscated many weapons it wasn't a metal detector that brought it to my attention. it
10:05 pm
was a student. they were the most effective because they're ubiquitous. they are everywhere. they know who has what in the backpack and if you extrapolate that to bullying we can't be at home when they are logging in. students will know who posted what and if we can build the resiliency in the student body and move from the paradigm where it's okay to post those things and you're a big guy because you have a picture of a naked teeneen on your phone and to a culture it's not scpook you're hurting somebody and somebody will bring that to the attention of an adult that can intercede. i think that is what we're trying to develop and system and students understand it's not okay to hurt each other and whether it's words or pictures. that can only happen with what george and nancy were talking about and empowering
10:06 pm
teachers and administrators and parents to be part of that conversation as well. >> thanks richard. >> i want to add -- >> really fast. >> thank god there are people that want to teach in our schools and i think it's a tremendously difficult and challenging job and as res lynn was talking about when you have the five minutes passing in the hall and you see bullying so you have a few choices. i would like to go to the bathroom. i can do this. i can do that, or am i going to get involved in this situation? and to give some strength to encourage teachers to do this, there was a law passed recently. assembly bill nine and amends the education code and requires school personnel, whether it's teachers or administrators if they see something that looks
10:07 pm
bullying they are required to intervene when it's safe and appropriate to do so, i think it's the kind of law that is trying to give teachers -- yeah, you are the authority figure. you are supposed to do this and we will support your efforts. assembly bill nine and amends the education code and it's just something that might be useful for the school personnel here. >> okay. we have time for just a couple of questions but before that i'm going to ask you a panel and you only get three words to answer. i'm going to cut you off. you can use one word. money is a problem in terms of programs. if you had all the money in the world what would you do to combat bullying? >> kids, empower, empower kids. >> okay. can specific.
10:08 pm
>> education and prevention. >> restorative justice and healing. >> that's too many words. nancy. >> healing and intervengdz. >> developing deep relationships. >> strengthening families. >> excellent. [applause] thank you to the panelists. we have time for about two questions. >> hi to the panel and thank you very much. really interesting. i am jack winestein and admitted have a vested interest where you might take this question. i think that what you have done collectively today and especially in this last panel is make a case for more professional development for educators as well as for opportunities for students to develop their moral
10:09 pm
philosophical voices, so the question i have for you given the current climate, economically and politically, can we afford to separate out this conversation from the larger political and economic conversation that confronts the whole state? and what's the role of this body, educators community leaders in making sure we fund the kind of interventions and developments that lead to division you have described so beautifully. >> can i get one person to answer that? >> real quick. i think the idea that we can help young people and dawlts learn and growth mind set and have to advocate for more time to learn. the reduction in adult learning in schools is damaging all of us as a whole entire state, so i think you're absolutely right, but to then also understand that helping young people have a
10:10 pm
social filter, executive function and make life's choices. we know about brain development but we can help young people to make good decisions and we stripped that out and doesn't incorporate that and social emotional learning and other folks to say we should in fact care deeply about young people developing the capacity to make good decisions and to struggle productively with one another. that should be our teaching as well so more time for adults to grow and learn together and professional capital to build and help the kids grow and not just the content but in human beings. >> yeah and to add to that i think it's involving the community, so the pta's, the nonprofits, the faith based community and bringing them together and share resources and get really focused and looking at the data and then the outcomes because that keeps you
10:11 pm
focused. >> great. okay go ahead. >> this is a mixed appreciation and a question. i'm nicholas carlyle and the director of "bully" , san francisco's nonprofit and we share with you the realization that punishment makes bullying situations worse. it's uncoupled bullying and punishment and the question is, which is kind of a comment too. if we uncouple bullying and punishment doesn't that make it much easier to define what bullying is? and seems to me and defining bullying because the bar is so high because we're afraid it's going to trigger some prescribed consequence and bullying doesn't necessarily have to lead to a consequence and just a solution wouldn't that make the definition of
10:12 pm
bullying much easier? >> i don't think that that -- at least from my perspective and what i heard so far that the focus of addressing bullying leads to punishment. at least what i have been talking about and my colleagues here is we're focused on addressing it as changing behaviors, and learned positive behaviors as opposed to trying to assess or attach a punishment to it. it might result in some punishment if it's extreme but i think that the focus at least from us is that we want to do the intervention, the healing, the retorstiff justice and i don't think punishment should be a substiewlt word for the behavior and i think that is where the
10:13 pm
confusion lies for some and if we held someone accountable for a behavior is attached to a punishment and not necessarily so. >> great. i would like to recognize the district attorney of nasessa and gary leeberson. is he here? hi gary and the other district attorney. if we can get a microphone and since we have the experts here. what are you most proud of in san that -- mateo and i know there is a program there and what you're most proud of in your community that addresses these issues? >> hi everybody. >> sorry to surprise you. >> no worries. we're meant to think on our feet. the collaboration that we have in our community. we have been sitting around the table as
10:14 pm
community leaders throughout our criminal justice system for a number of years, long before realignment happened with the schools and law enforcement, with probation, our office, with public centers office and looking a sulsystem's approach and not just punitive base but there are going to be consequences as nancy said for very extreme acts but everything ultimately is local. i mean with limited exceptions of people that need lifelong time outs or much longer than everybody else, but by in large everything is local and i think that we really put a lot of focus on our young people. my colleagues and the superintendent was here barbara and had to leave about an hour ago and we try to work together. we have been trying to be innovative in truancy areas. i think i stole this from alameda
10:15 pm
and san francisco but i sent a letter out to address all school parents on my letterhead to talk about the importance of kids being in school and sort of the having the feather in the club approach but basically talking statistically today's victims being tomorrow's victims and perpetrators and how important it is for your kids to be in school, so it's the full community approach and the holistic approach as it were. >> okay great. did you want to add something? >> on the spot but i was proud of the three da's and they covered it and we worked over the years with the heart power that jeff rosen referred to. when moving into the soft power i recognize we're not experts so i look to people like anne
10:16 pm
campbell, our superintendent and to cheryl there to educate us and i said this morning "i am interested what we can do as a district attorney's office to help , what we can do to help" because we recognize we're not experts. we have an expertise in certain areas dealing with consequences and accountability and we're good with that. when it comes to soft power with great collaboration we can have a support role and provide to our educators and experts what exactly can we do to assist you getting to the end that everybody talked about today and that's the only different take we would have. >> great thank you. [applause] i would like to say we need to wrap up. we have a late start and need to keep moving. i would
10:17 pm
like to say what struck me today that even though teachers and principals are in school all day addressing those things in the hallways and they're not here. we have school people but they're not the ones on the ground but i think they would be thrilled to know that the people in this room that represent law enforcement -- i think i saw someone from the cartoon network and parents and people across the board recognize this isn't just a school problem. this is a community problem and that everybody is here to work together in that, and what a wonderful message to send to those teachers even though they're not here today. i want to thank the panelists that represent the groups. these are my sources and often don't like me and today we will be friends and create a culture of cooperation. thank you so much.
10:18 pm
[applause] okay. folks we're going to roll into the final panel. it's an important panel. it covers i think what has been over arching theme which is online bullying. if the panelists could come up we will get started. why don't
10:19 pm
we get started and i know everybody needs to go but again it's an important top and i can flowed through many of the conversations today and harassment and bullying online and i will introduce the moderator and she is anne collier and executive director of family news and a journal iftd and youth advocate and the coauthor of a parent's guide to facebook and myspace unraveled and social networking. she served on president obama technology working group and delivered its group to congress and youth safety on the internet and you can read her plug. how's that for a plug?
10:20 pm
>> thank you very much. our parents guide is free and can be distributed at schools or parent nights or whatever, so we're happy to make them available to you at connect safety .org so a little bit more of the big picture. this is amazing panel of people who have resources and campaigns that can support and reinforce your fine work. so i am glad you stayedand we learned about bullying and preventions and solutions and just to reinforce getting the accurate picture bullying is a serious problem but it's not an epidemic. it's not on the rise. daift finkelhorn and director
10:21 pm
of the research center university of new hampshire and reviewed studies and bullying among youth is actually down in recent years. his colleague have actually stopped using the term of "bullying" and refer to peer aggression and i can go into definitions but i won't bore you. a subset of bullying is also not on the rise and based on researchers and their samples and other scholar's work and 20% of teens have ever experienced cyber bullying and a scholar from norway published lower numbers but why be such a stickler about accurate data?
10:22 pm
because the norms for research say getting the facts out takes the tacit acceptance or fatalism out of the picture. perception changes behavior so when we connect surveys in school and own their own data and a psychology professor at university of nebraska and the vast majority of students moment engage in bullying behavior and when students find that out bullying behavior goes down further and it's a powerful resource you can use. now i'm going to introduce this amazing panel. first we have just to my right mia from sealtion. she is going to explain more about
10:23 pm
this term that was used a lot today and social literacy or social emotional learning. alice con is from cartoon network. dave steer to her right is from facebook and next to him is officer holly lawrence, sunny valley of public safety, digital safety program and she's going to talk about which is a powerful thing going national. and next -- is brian here? no. okay. all right. so we're all set and mia i would like you to enlighten us more in all that you're doing in social emotional learning. >> sure. i had some slides but i'm not sure -- no, we have a handout that went around to you and more detail about what social emotional learning is because i think we rise a
10:24 pm
little bit today and i came from seattle and i know many people have brought up that term today and i get the sense from this group that you're at kind of a high level of discourse and you have a general understanding. could i see a show of hands for those of you that social emotional learning is a familiar term? and those that feel you have a deep understanding of it? okay. great. thank you. i want to introduce myself a little more so you have the context of what i do. i work for a nonprofit in seattle "committee for children" and we have been around for about 32 years. we're nonprofit and we do both education and advocacy and on the education end we develop be curriculum and the curriculum is used widely across the country. it's in every state in the country and in canada and 70 countries around
10:25 pm
the world and programs we're familiar with is second step and i am hearing some nods and we have a -- idea of kind of what kind of things that we do, and i also do advocacy work so i come and speak at meetings like this. i was at the attorney general's meeting in washington state and i would like to congratulate
10:26 pm
you and especially those in law enforcement in california for the high level of discourse that you have incredibly impressed today by what i have heard and my hats off to you for all the good work you're doing. so i do advocacy and part of that is kind of reaching out to people and bringing the message of social emotional learning not just to schools because educators kind of get it. it's not a stretch when we talk to them why it's important to get it, but we want to take the message outside of the school into the media, into the communities, into families so that people kind of understand this process of another way of learning and becoming an educated person. a couple of other things i do i work with anne on the board and with the foundation. that has been exciting. i do advising for
10:27 pm
sesame street. if you have small children the next seafn sesame street you will see some of the favorite characters and breathing and learning problem solving models and we're very excited -- >> [inaudible] >> and they're focusing on self regulation and other skills and specific focus and exciting working with them the past year and a half or so so i want people to have a look here, and what i would like to do is tie some of the things together that you have been hearing about today and in terms of bullying prevention, other prevention work going on in your state and in terms of promoting positive behaviors with youth, and so sometimes you hear social emotional learning, but what is it really? okay. so i have
10:28 pm
borrowed this model from kazel and it's the clghtive for social emotional learning and headquartered in chicago and this is their model that i find interesting and look at the different domains and the areas that comprise social emotional learning, and you will see that couple of them, self awareness and self management are things about yourself. this is knowledge about yourself. this is when we teach children we teach children to recognize their emotions, recognize what things trigger strong emotions and give a name to different emotions and one important thing if you work with children or even with adults strong emotions can be very confusing for people, so people have the intense emotions and for kids not literate to name their
10:29 pm
emotions it comes out angry, right and what might that be? it could be frustration. it could be embarrassment. it could be any number of different really strong emotions, and if they don't know how to put words to that, they don't know how to begin to solve the problems or ask for help and this is at the very fundamental level which we teach very, very young children. they have the do -- domains and compassion and we heard bullying is a problem with relationships and a lot of researchers talk about it like this as well. this is where we learn about having positive relationships that make a difference between peer to peer in the schools that make a difference between adults and th